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Old 10-29-2011, 12:04 PM  
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Girl Scouts of Colorado welcomes boy

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Girl Scouts of Colorado welcomes boy -- if he thinks he's a girl - latimes.com

Girl Scouts of Colorado welcomes boy -- if he thinks he's a girl


Image: Seven-year-old Bobby Montoya plays with a favorite toy while mother Felisha Archuleta looks on in this still from a video by Colorado's Channel 9 News.

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What does it take for an anatomical boy to be enough of a girl to join the Girl Scouts?

The question came up recently when 7-year-old Bobby Montoya -- a long-haired, Bratz-loving, biological boy -- asked his mother to sign him up for a Girl Scout troop near his Colorado home.

The troop leader said no. So Bobby's mom, Felisha Archuleta, went to the media -- telling a local television station that her son has loved "girl stuff" since he was 2, and that the troop leader's decision to reject him had left him devastated.

"I said, 'What's the big deal?' and she says, 'It doesn't matter how he looks, he has boy parts; he can't be a Girl Scout,' "Archuleta told Colorado's Channel 9 News.

But in fact, Girl Scouts of Colorado does allow people with boy parts to join its troops, as long as the child is truly transgendered -- meaning the child identifies as a girl, and the family identifies the child as a girl.

"We feel it is important to include all girls, so when a family says, 'This is my daughter and she wants to be a Girl Scout,' we are not going to question that," Rachelle Trujillo, vice president of communications for Girl Scouts of Colorado told The Times.

"The troop leader in this case was confused because the mom was confused," Trujillo said. "She did not say, 'This is my daughter.' She said, 'This is my son and he wants to be in Girl Scouts,' and we don't accept boys in Girl Scouts."

Trujillo said the Girl Scouts of Colorado has only started encountering transgendered children asking to join Girl Scouts in the last three or four years. Since then, she said, her office hears about one or two such cases a year.

"It's still a very small population," she said. Girl Scouts of Colorado has more than 30,000 girls.

As of Friday morning, Trujillo said the troop leader was still waiting to hear back from Archuleta about whether she wants to sign Bobby up.

"If she does want Bobby to join, they need to make a decision, that as a family, that we are going to entirely have her live her life as a girl," Trujillo said. "If they do so, we are happy to have her as a member."
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:15 PM  
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Well, every day I get up and say to myself "Self... what do you think...in your wildest imagination ... will make you think WTF today."

Well, there it is, thanks Blucher for another great post.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:21 PM  
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GSA over BSA in a walkover Pt.1

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what do you think...in your wildest imagination ... will make you think WTF today."
Every day has a few of those for me. The web just malkes them easier to stumble on.

I was rather impressed how well the Girl Scouts adjusted and even more so after seeing this today;

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Boy Scouts failed to report abuser

Boy Scouts failed to report abuser - latimes.com


Rick Turley molested children for nearly two decades. "It was easy," he said. (CBC News: the fifth estate)
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Rick Turley was 18 when he learned that Scouting offered a unique opportunity to meet boys.

He would show up in a uniform with a sash full of merit badges, charm parents with claims of being a "top" leader and offer to take their preteen boys out for a swim or drive. Then, often after plying them with alcohol, he would fondle or rape them ? once going so far as to kidnap a boy in a stolen plane.

Over nearly two decades, Turley molested at least 15 children in Southern California and British Columbia, most of whom he met through American and Canadian Scouting, a Los Angeles Times and Canadian Broadcasting Corp. investigation has found.

Scouting officials on both sides of the border not only failed to stop him, but sometimes helped cover his tracks, according to confidential Scouting records, court files and interviews with victims, families and Scout leaders.

At one point in 1979, Boy Scouts of America officials decided not to call police after Turley admitted molesting three Orange County boys, the organization's records show.

"We were following exactly the national recommendations of the Boy Scouts of America and its board who set up the rules," said A. Buford Hill Jr., a former Orange County Scouting executive, in a recent interview. "You do not want to broadcast to the entire population that these things happen. You take care of it quietly and make sure it never happens again."

But it did.

Turley returned to British Columbia, signed on with Scouts Canada, which is separate from its U.S. counterpart, and continued his abuses for at least a decade.

Turley, now 58, is still surprised at how often he got away with it.

"It was easy," he said in an interview this month at the Alberta truck-stop motel where he now works.

Turley is one of more than 5,000 suspected child molesters named in confidential files kept by the Boy Scouts of America. The documents ? called the "perversion files" by the organization ? include unsubstantiated tips as well as admissions of guilt.

Those records have surfaced in recent years in lawsuits by former Scouts, accusing the group of failing to exclude known pedophiles, detect abuses or turn in offenders to the police.

The Oregon Supreme Court is now weighing a request by newspapers, a wire service and broadcasters to open about 1,200 more files in the wake of a nearly $20-million judgment in a Portland sex abuse case last year.

The Scouts' handling of sex-abuse allegations echoes that of the Catholic Church in the face of accusations against its priests, some attorneys say.

"It's the same institutional reaction: scandal prevention," said Seattle attorney Timothy Kosnoff, who has filed seven suits in the last year by former Scouts but was not involved in the Oregon case.

Current Boy Scouts of America officials declined to be interviewed and would not say how many files exist or what is in them. Their lawyers have said the records are confidential, in part to protect victims and because some of the files are based on unproven allegations.

"The BSA has continued to enhance its youth protection efforts as society has increased its understanding of the dangers children face," the Scouts said in a statement.

In the 1980s, the Boy Scouts began requiring that at least two adults be present for troop activities. The following decade, it mandated criminal background checks for staffers, a requirement that was expanded to the organization's nearly 1 million volunteers in 2008. Last year, it required child abuse prevention training as well. All suspicions of sexual misconduct must now be reported to police.

Those measures would likely have stopped Turley had they been in place decades ago. Instead, the Scouts' national policy had long recommended keeping abuse and other misconduct a secret.

Turley said one call to police by Scouting officials in 1979 "probably would have put a stop to me years and years and years ago." Instead, he "went back to the Scouts again and again as a leader and offended against the boys," said Turley, who said he has learned to control his impulses.

"That person who was Rick Turley was a monster," he said.
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Turley's earliest known molestation was in 1971, when he was working as a truck driver and was a Canadian Cub Scout leader, according to records in a Canadian criminal case 25 years later. He met Joey Day during a delivery on Vancouver Island in British Columbia and soon showed up at the Days' home in his uniform.

"He offered to take Joey into Cubs, and being a Cub master, I mean, who wouldn't you trust?" Day's mother, Eileen, testified in the criminal case against Turley in 1996.

Turley got permission to take the 10-year-old to a nearby lake, where he talked him into skinny-dipping and then molested him. This is what men do for other men, Turley told him, just don't tell your parents, Joey testified in the case.

Over the next two years, instead of taking Joey to Cub meetings, Turley took him to his apartment, where he gave him alcohol, showed him pornography and abused him. On his final visit, Turley raped him, court records state.

Joey tried to tell his father of the abuse, but he reacted by beating him. More than two decades would pass before police learned of Turley's abuse.

In January 1975, Turley showed up at the La Puente home of Eddy Iris, an 11-year-old he'd met at a local Scout meeting while visiting an Orange County family.

"He was knowledgeable about things that I liked. He was extremely friendly. He paid attention to you," said Iris, now 47 and living in Ontario, Canada.

Turley told Eddy's mother that he was "one of Canada's top Scout leaders" and asked if her son could show him around town, she said in an interview.

They played miniature golf, took a demo flight in a small plane at Fallbrook Airport and spent the night together in a sleeping bag in the mountains, according to Iris and police records. If anything worse happened that night, Iris said, he must have slept through it.

The next day, they went back to the airport, where Turley stole a Cessna 172. After takeoff, he turned to his young passenger and asked: "You do realize you've been kidnapped, don't you?"

You do realize you?ve been kidnapped, don't you?? Turley asked his 11-year old passenger.
The plane soon ran out of fuel and made an emergency landing on a Mojave Desert airstrip. Turley was arrested and later pleaded guilty to felony child stealing. After psychiatric evaluations, he was committed to Patton State Hospital in San Bernardino County as a "mentally disordered sex offender."

After 18 months, Turley was released on five years' probation and ordered to return to Canada.

Instead, Turley within months got a job at a Boy Scout camp just up the road from the hospital and spent the next three summers working with Scouts in San Bernardino and San Diego counties.

At the time, the Scouts' policy did not require criminal background checks.

By 1979, Turley was a program director at Lost Valley Boy Scout Reservation in San Diego County. That July, he persuaded the leader of an Orange County troop to let his son and two other boys spend an extra night at camp. When he took the boys home the next day, all three told their Scoutmaster they had been molested, according to Turley's Boy Scout file.

Turley "readily admitted what he had done, expressed concern for his action, immediately packed and returned to Canada," said Hill, the former Scouts executive, in a memo.
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GSA vs. BSA Pt. 2

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In keeping with Scout policy, Hill and other officials asked Boy Scouts headquarters in Texas to open a confidential file on Turley.

"The parents of the three boys agreed not to press charges if he would leave, but are quite prepared to do so if they hear of his involvement with Scouting," Hill wrote to headquarters.

The Scouts had been keeping these files, in one form or another, since the 1920s, according to the organization. Only a select few had access to them. Their existence was not widely known until the 1990s, when former Scouts began filing sexual abuse lawsuits.

A confidential 1972 memo that also surfaced many years later in a court case laid out the group's approach to handling cases of sexual abuse and other misconduct.

"Indicate [to the accused] that the BSA is not sharing this information with anyone and only wish him to stop all Scouting activity," wrote Paul Ernst, an executive at the Boy Scouts' national office. He included a standard dismissal letter, which read in part:

"We are making no accusations and will not release this information to anyone, so our action in no way will affect your standing in the community."

Orange County Scout leaders stuck to the policy, telling camp staffers that Turley was called back for active military duty.

"In a week or two we knew the real story," said former staffer Jim Donovan. "The leaders were more interested in covering it up and doing damage control."

Hill, now 82, told The Times he did not recall the specifics of the case but said the policy was appropriate for the time.

"If something like this happens in a church ? can you imagine a pastor getting up and saying, 'Listen folks, something terrible happened here yesterday,'" he said. "That's stupid."

As for Turley, Hill said: "Hopefully he went back to Canada and that was their problem."
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TTurley did go back ? to Victoria, British Columbia ? and by 1982, became a volunteer Scoutmaster with a local troop, Second Douglas.

Canadian and American Scout officials say they do not know if any information on Turley was shared.

Records in the 1996 Canadian criminal case show that Turley took Scouts across the border for joint events with American scouts in Washington state. A Canadian Scout later testified that he was molested on one trip.

Turley stocked his house in Victoria with candy and ice cream. Children would come to play computer games or watch movies.

Jason Davies, who was 11 when he met Turley, testified in the criminal case that he spent three or four nights a week there and was regularly abused over a decade.

"It's caused lifelong problems for me physically and mentally," Davies told the CBC. "I can't let anyone touch me."

"They could have stopped this if they wanted to," he said, referring to Scouts Canada.

They could have stopped this if they wanted to,? said Jason Davies, referring to Scouts Canada.
At least two Canadian Scout leaders reported concerns to local headquarters about Turley's behavior around children, including that boys were sleeping in his tent on camping trips, court records show. In the mid-1980s, at least two years after he took over as Scoutmaster and several months after the two leaders raised concerns, officials asked Turley to step down.

Rather than call police or throw Turley out, Canadian Scouting officials transferred him to another troop. He left the Scouts a year later.

Turley's past caught up with him in 1995, when a woman he was involved with told police he had admitted to being sexually attracted to children. A sex crimes investigator contacted former Scouts, and Turley was arrested.

He was tried in January 1996 on 10 counts of molesting six children and was convicted of five counts. He was sentenced to seven years in prison, reduced to five on appeal.

Paroled in 2000, he was later caught trying to draw two pre-teen boys into a relationship and sent back to prison. He was released two years later.

Turley expressed remorse in his recent interview but said he couldn't recall everyone he had abused over the years: "It's hard to put a number on it."

Scouts Canada officials declined to discuss Turley, instead saying in a statement that "the concern and regret felt by Scouts Canada toward those who have been victimized in the past is beyond measure."

The group now acts swiftly to remove those suspected of abuse and alert authorities, the statement says.

In the Portland abuse case last year, former Scout Kerry Lewis said the organization failed to protect him as a 12-year-old in the 1980s from a known molester. The judge in the case allowed into evidence about 1,200 of the Scouts' "perversion files," covering Lewis' time in the Scouts. The $20-million jury award was the largest yet against the Scouts, which had lost, settled or won some previous cases. Similar suits are pending around the country.

After their use at trial, the Scouts petitioned the court to keep the files closed, a move opposed by media outlets seeking their full disclosure.

A coalition of victims' rights and child advocacy groups also want the files opened ? with victims' names redacted ? arguing that it "will end the Boy Scouts' ability to deny its child abuse problem" and encourage others who were molested to come forward.

"It is likely that there are thousands of victims who remain locked in avoidance and denial ? imprisoned by the continuing veil of secrecy," the group wrote in court papers.
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