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Old 11-26-2010, 12:18 PM  
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Wine VS Beer.

so with the holiday just passed, i was going through wines instead of beers.
and i gotta say, wine is awfully bland.
the flavor spectrum is so narrow.
maybe some grapes, and fruit tones, and maybe some bitters.
not really a whole lot. i tried analyzing it like i would a beer, and i was disappointed.
no caremels, no chocolate, florals, oats, malts, coffee, oak,
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:19 PM  
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there has to be a way to make wine with more complex flavor then this?
how about a secondary ferment on oak?
a different yeast maybe?
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:23 PM  
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I think that part of the issue may be that wine provides a poor base for building flavors upon. I'm no expert on wine but to my palate it has two basic axis of flavor:

1. Sweet to Dry
2. Clean to Tanniny (is that a word)?

Perhaps the sweet base is the reason that most attempts to add additional flavoring fails and is limited to other sweet things like berries - you see this in coolers and mixed drinks like sangria.

Beer, on the other hand, has a bitter base which is more apt to building flavors upon - anything from fruit to nuts, chocolate, vanilla, coffee, chili, smoke, etc. work well, breaking the doors open to experimentation. I think we also are in the middle of a renaissance for beer and there are a lot of people who are very open to bent beers. Wine, on the other hand, has a five thousand year history of tasting exactly the same and efforts to change the terroir have so far been epitomized by brands like Boones Farm, not exactly a glowing reason to change what you're doing if you're a respected winery.

As for me, I'll keep enjoying wine when I'm eating Italian or French cuisine as their food and drink have grown together and work together beautifully. For all other times, I'll take my pint glass to the tap and enjoy a nice complex brew.

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Old 12-08-2010, 04:19 PM  
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Guinness good for all occasions
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:23 PM  
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There are some other big issues:

* veggie to fruity
* simple to complicated
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:40 PM  
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Wine goes full spectrum, it just takes subtley and patience to sense the differential. There are far fewer ingredients in wine compared to beer, but I will say I still love a fine barolo or a Zinfandel. Don't get me wrong. I'm a homebrewer and quite the beer enthusiast, however I feel just as at home at a wine tasting as a beer tasting.

my 2 cents.
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:44 AM  
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Try a nice sweet Riesling and follow that up with a Cabernet Sauvignon, and you will probably change your opinion.

However, I will stick with beer on most occasions.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:39 AM  
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I like beer
It makes me a jolly good fellow
I like beer
It helps me unwind and sometimes it makes me feel mellow
Whiskey's too rought champaigne costs too much
And vodka puts my mouth in gear
This little refrain should help me explain
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:59 AM  
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Guinness good for all occasions
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"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Ben Franklin
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