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Old 01-21-2011, 10:45 AM  
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Trapping and killing coyotes?

Recently, the City of Arcadia has been in hot water for hiring professionals to trap and kill coyotes, because the wealthy homeowners are complaining that their kitty cats have been taken and eaten by the wild animals.

I have a problem with the mega rich, building a house in the canyons where coyotes have been for thousands of years, and deciding their estate is more important than the wildlife.

I know that since the numbers of coyotes killed are rapidly declining, this program has been temporarily suspended as of this week, but can be implemented once more coyotes are sighted.

How do you feel about this?
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:23 PM  
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They have let the rich and famous get away with murder because of their wealth, so I guess killing coyotes isnt a big deal to them either.
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:39 AM  
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I live in Wisconsin in the last parts of what was once called the Big Woods. I share my land with deer, turkey, bears, wolfs coyotes, bobcats and some other animals. I live on this land for about 30 years. In all that time I had never the feeling that I need to kill any of the fellow inhabitants of my land. One just has to learn to live with the wild life, and if cats are on their menu plan, one should not have cats!

I don't need a gun, I don't need traps I just have two big dogs that remind the wild animals to better keep some distance between them and my family when we are outside. As a nice side effect, my dogs also keep unwanted solicitors of my land!
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:55 AM  
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I live in Wisconsin in the last parts of what was once called the Big Woods. I share my land with deer, turkey, bears, wolfs coyotes, bobcats and some other animals. I live on this land for about 30 years. In all that time I had never the feeling that I need to kill any of the fellow inhabitants of my land. One just has to learn to live with the wild life, and if cats are on their menu plan, one should not have cats!

I don't need a gun, I don't need traps I just have two big dogs that remind the wild animals to better keep some distance between them and my family when we are outside. As a nice side effect, my dogs also keep unwanted solicitors of my land!
This is what responsible land ownership is all about.
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:17 PM  
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I do not see any problem with this
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:00 PM  
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A friend of mine used to work as a hired hunter/trapper for cities around LA county. He explained to me that coyotes, being quite adaptive creatures, were increasing in number and expanding their range because encroachment of human settlement was providing them with an easy source of food in the form of trash, cats and small dogs. Their numbers increased to the point where they're dependent upon humans for survival. At that point, many localities will have them culled down to numbers that can be sustained by their natural food sources. "Rich" people may be complaining that kitty got munched, but coyotes range all over the city in areas that I wouldn't want to wander around in at night. I doubt that the coyotes are being culled solely because of irate former cat owners.
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Old 02-19-2011, 06:25 PM  
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This is one of those topics that gets me so fired up. Its too bad people don't see coyotes for the incredible animals they are. But people being the animals they are, it's easier to just kill them rather than to adjust your lifestyle to fit their surroundings.
For example, I live in an area that could have fire/earthquakes so i buy insurance. My car/house could get broken into, so I lock them up and buy more insurance. If I had regular coyotes in my neighborhood, I just would not put small defenseless animals outside in harms way, and i would keep tight lids on the garbage cans. No killing needed. Coyotes are incredibly smart and adaptable animals that keep rodent populations down, and are just as much a part of our state as anything else.
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:09 PM  
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This is one of those topics that gets me so fired up. Its too bad people don't see coyotes for the incredible animals they are. But people being the animals they are, it's easier to just kill them rather than to adjust your lifestyle to fit their surroundings.
For example, I live in an area that could have fire/earthquakes so i buy insurance. My car/house could get broken into, so I lock them up and buy more insurance. If I had regular coyotes in my neighborhood, I just would not put small defenseless animals outside in harms way, and i would keep tight lids on the garbage cans. No killing needed. Coyotes are incredibly smart and adaptable animals that keep rodent populations down, and are just as much a part of our state as anything else.
I don't disagree - I think coyotes are quite amazing. I live in the hills and sometimes see coyotes as they trot through the yard. I also have two dogs. We protect our dogs by escorting them outside at night, and we discourage the coyotes with tight lids on the trash cans as you mentioned. I have no desire whatsoever to hurt them. The purpose of my last post was twofold:
1. To pass on, as best as I remembered, information that was given to me by someone involved in culling coyotes, and
2. To politely express my disagreement/dismay with the idea coyotes were being killed at the behest of the "rich" because coyotes roam their neighborhoods. I live in the hills, I'm definitely not rich, and I live near areas where the coyote population has been periodically reduced. (I'm not using "reduced" as a euphemism for killed - there are other ways to reduce animal populations and I can't vouch for the methods used here).
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:52 PM  
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This is one of those topics that gets me so fired up. Its too bad people don't see coyotes for the incredible animals they are. But people being the animals they are, it's easier to just kill them rather than to adjust your lifestyle to fit their surroundings.
For example, I live in an area that could have fire/earthquakes so i buy insurance. My car/house could get broken into, so I lock them up and buy more insurance. If I had regular coyotes in my neighborhood, I just would not put small defenseless animals outside in harms way, and i would keep tight lids on the garbage cans. No killing needed. Coyotes are incredibly smart and adaptable animals that keep rodent populations down, and are just as much a part of our state as anything else.
Well said.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:32 AM  
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Recently, the City of Arcadia has been in hot water for hiring professionals to trap and kill black widow spiders, because the wealthy homeowners are complaining that their kitty cats and small children have been poisoned by wild animals.

I have a problem with the mega rich, building a house in the canyons where black widows have been for thousands of years, and deciding their estate is more important than the wildlife.

I know that since the numbers of black widows killed are rapidly declining, this program has been temporarily suspended as of this week, but can be implemented once more black widows are sighted.

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