We live in Fairview, that is near, not much, 1 hr from West Branch, 1 hr. from Houghton Lake, 1 hr l5 min from Gaylord, 1 hr. from Alpena, 1 hr. from Grayling. We came from Sterling Hgts. ll years ago and have no desire to move back. We do not like Traverse City anymore its like going downstate, too commercial, too much traffic, can't see the Bay anymore for all of the highrise motels on the water.