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Old 07-14-2011, 09:08 AM  
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What do you think of this proposed amendment that is circulating:

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The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.

I'm asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. No Tenure / No Pension.
A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:30 AM  
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1.) destroys the "idea" that business won't own congressmen, after this they would have to make a deal to obtain a job somewhere meaning each one will be guarenteed to have to sell out.

4.)should just be CPI, don't add in extra complexities

5.) good, but in reality it won't happen, health insurers will mark these people as "premium" customers and will not suffer the same injustices the average person does- at least without regulation to ensure this does not happen....

6.) don't they already?

7.) good luck with that.....

I like the idea in abstract but without provisions giving business even more control this is just going to make it worse, I would rather we pay them a reasonable pension but in exchange they cannot take a paying job for a private company again to avoid the use and abuse scheme of selling out americans for a cushy job post congress.... This would also attract more people who want to improve society instead of improve their bank account.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:11 AM  
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There are things in the amendment that some might word differently but this is the version that is circulating. If we try to change it now it will never get off the ground and probably won't make it anyway. On the plus side I have received it several times from different people so it is gaining some ground.

I do my part and forward it as well as posting it on forums.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:47 PM  
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There are things in the amendment that some might word differently but this is the version that is circulating. If we try to change it now it will never get off the ground and probably won't make it anyway. On the plus side I have received it several times from different people so it is gaining some ground.

I do my part and forward it as well as posting it on forums.
so I take it you were not part of the crowd saying "we should dismantle attempts to get ObamaCare instituted until everything is perfect right?
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:16 PM  
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so I take it you were not part of the crowd saying "we should dismantle attempts to get ObamaCare instituted until everything is perfect right?
I'm not part of any crowd.
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Old 07-15-2011, 06:05 PM  
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I'm not part of any crowd.
ok then.... so individually did you say the obama health care plan should not be held back due to minor issues? that those can be worked out later? was that acceptable?
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Old 07-15-2011, 06:41 PM  
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ok then.... so individually did you say the obama health care plan should not be held back due to minor issues? that those can be worked out later? was that acceptable?
Nope! Context unrelated.
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