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Old 10-21-2011, 04:24 PM  
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Biden's False Claims

This from the American Journal VP Biden False Claims About Crime Rates
VP Biden False Claims About Crime Rates
FactCheck.Org-Joe Biden falsely claimed on multiple occasions that the number of reported rapes in Flint, Mich., has skyrocketed since 2008 ? providing different accounts at different events that do not square with FBI data. He started at a 152 percent increase, and since then has said rapes in Flint have tripled and even ?quadrupled.? But FBI data show the number of rapes in Flint has gone down 11 percent, from 103 in 2008 to 92 in 2010.
Biden also said the city?s murder rate has ?tripled.? The city says there were a record-high 66 murders last year ? double, not triple, the 32 murders that occurred in 2008.

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Old 10-21-2011, 04:44 PM  
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Last night, Democrats in the Senate tried to pass a simple piece of President Obama's jobs plan that shouldn't be controversial: provide money to prevent further layoffs of teachers, cops, and firefighters at the local level, and pay for it by taxing the income of millionaires an extra 0.5%.

This morning a lot of media outlets reported that the Senate "rejected" or "voted down" this proposal.

But that's not what happened. The measure didn't come to an actual vote.

That's because every single Republican senator filibustered the bill -- meaning they wouldn't even let an up-or-down vote happen. Republicans have unilaterally decided not to allow even that simple majority vote on anything that might help the economy before the next election.

To be clear: This bill would have created jobs, and both parties have supported similar measures in the past.
We'll have more on this soon.


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Old 10-21-2011, 11:11 PM  
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From Carolina Journal Obama Plan: Teacher Jobs One Year Only
Obama Plan: Teacher Jobs One Year Only
After a year, there?s no federal funding for the added jobs
By Don Carrington
Oct. 3rd, 2011

RALEIGH ? President Barack Obama stood before thousands of screaming supporters at North Carolina State University Sept. 14, urging Congress to pass the American Jobs Act, his $450 billion plan to create jobs and stimulate the economy.

?Pass this jobs bill, and there will be funding to save the jobs of up to 13,000 North Carolina teachers, cops, and firefighters,? he said. But he didn?t say that his bill would fund the jobs only for one year. Nor did he say how the jobs would be paid for after that ? or whether state and local governments would have to lay off other public employees to maintain the jobs of those hired under the bill.

A White House press release describing the benefits to North Carolina was more specific. ?These funds would help states and localities avoid and reverse layoffs now, and will provide $900,300,000 in funds to North Carolina to support 13,400 educator and first responder jobs.?

As in the president?s comments, the White House press release does not specify how long the jobs would be funded. Dividing $900,300,000 by 13,400 yields $67,186.57 to cover salary, benefits, and any other costs associated with providing each job in North Carolina. Since the average annual cost of teacher pay and benefits in the state is $56,000, funding in Obama?s jobs bill would cover a little more than one year of compensation.

Sections 204-209 of the bill include provisions requiring states to ?meet the requirements? of the law for an additional two years. A White House spokeswoman told Carolina Journal that the bill includes no unfunded mandates. But unless North Carolina picks up the funding for these positions after the first year, it?s unclear how the teachers and first responders supported by it would be paid.

Moreover, the traditional school year began before Obama made his speech at N.C. State. Local school districts have hired teachers and classes are under way. Even if the bill became law quickly, it?s unclear how North Carolina government agencies could accept the federal money and achieve the president?s job goals during the current fiscal year.

North Carolina Department of Public Instruction Chief Financial Officer Philip Price told CJ that the average cost of teacher pay and benefits in North Carolina was $56,000 per year. He said his staff is just beginning to analyze the components of the bill that applied to public schools.

Price also said approximately 4,000 North Carolina teacher positions are being supported currently by EduJobs, a program that was part of Obama?s previous stimulus package, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Price said the money for those jobs would run out in September 2012.

Across the country

Obama?s American Jobs Act specifically includes $35 billion for state and local government employees: $30 billion to hire or preserve the jobs of public school teachers, and $5 billion for police officers, firefighters, and other first responders. In the White House analysis for each state, the categories are combined. One-seventh, or 14 percent, of the money covers first responders.

A Carolina Journal analysis of the planned allotment and estimated jobs from each state yields a nationwide average cost per job of $74,757.

Obama has crisscrossed the country selling his plan. ?All across the country, budget cuts are forcing superintendents to make choices they don?t want make,? he said at a speech at Lincoln High School in Denver on Sept. 27. ?It?s unfair to our kids, it undermines their future, and it has to stop. Tell Congress to pass the American Jobs Act, and there will be funding to save the jobs of thousands of Colorado teachers ? and cops and firefighters, too,? he said.

But in Colorado he failed to mention the specific number who would be hired, and again failed to state how long those jobs would be funded with federal tax dollars.

The White House summary for Colorado states that his plan will award $478,600,000 to provide 7,000 jobs. Simple division yields an amount of $68,371 per job.

Background information provided to CJ by the White House bases the distribution of funds to each state primarily on population. The job estimates rely on public sector labor costs obtained from each state.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:09 AM  
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I don't get why democrats won't force them to filibuster it, make them work for it, the republicans just threaten and the democrats back off. Make those republicans stand up and spend their time to destroy america, let's not just hand them that without making them work to destroy america
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