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Old 06-18-2011, 05:21 PM  
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Ron Paul wins 2012 Republican straw poll

(Reuters) - Representative Ron Paul easily won a Republican Leadership Conference straw poll of the party's 2012 presidential contenders on Saturday, with former U.S. envoy to China Jon Huntsman finishing second.
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Paul, who brought busloads of supporters to the conference, won with 612 votes in the nonbinding preference poll of nearly 2,000 delegates from 38 states who attended the gathering.

Huntsman finished second with 382 votes, Representative Michele Bachmann was third with 191 votes and businessman Herman Cain was fourth with 104 votes.

Huntsman, a former Utah governor, is set announce his bid for the White House on Tuesday.

No other candidate broke triple digits. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who leads national opinion polls in the 2012 Republican race for the nomination to challenge President Barack Obama, was fifth with 74 votes.

"This win is just the latest indicator of how the majority of American opinion is turning in Ron Paul's direction," said Jesse Benton, his campaign chairman.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:55 PM  
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Obama explained that unemployment is due to automation such as ATMs and kiosk check-in at the airports.
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link it or admit that's BS.
It's not really what he said, as usul there is a bunch of spin from the right..... he said companies are becoming more efficient and workers need to be trained for new jobs instead of ones companies are doing away with, so it goes back to promoting education and training.

And it's true, he dumbed it down way too much and not the best example for the economy by far but many jobs that existed during the boom no longer exist (or at least won't be doing significant hiring for a while) , and may be a while before they come back again and these people need to improve their skillsets to be applicable at jobs that do exist or will exist instead of waiting around for an old job to come back.

to put it bluntly he could have said the people's whose jobs only existed because there was a boom economy but provided little real value to the company after the recession hit have been let go, these people need trained in jobs that are hiring, would have summed it up better

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Winners and losers at the Republican Leadership Conference

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Jon Huntsman: Despite missing the conference - his wife and daughter came in his place but did not speak - former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman finished a strong second in the presidential straw poll.

It was rumored that Huntsman's campaign bought tickets for and bussed in a number of college Republicans to up his vote, and his campaign did not deny as much to CBS News.


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Michele Bachmann: The three-term Congresswoman came into the conference with momentum from her widely-hailed performance in Monday's presidential debate, and she carried it through the conference, giving a well-received speech and finishing third in the straw poll.


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Rick Perry: The Texas governor didn't participate in the straw poll - even though he has made it known that he is considering a (relatively) late entry into the presidential race. But that didn't matter: With many Republicans still casting about for a consensus candidate, the buzz around a possible Perry run is undeniable.
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Herman Cain: Cain, the breakout star in the GOP field following the first GOP debate, took a bit of a hit as a result of his lackluster performance in the second debate. But he was triumphant here, getting a rapturous reception at a conference where he was largely ignored last year.
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Ron Paul: Paul, as expected, won the straw poll thanks to the passionate support of his limited following.


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his speech was unlikely to win back any of the potential donors scared off by his stumbling campaign rollout and subsequent staff exodus.


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Mitt Romney: Romney won the straw poll here last year but finished a disappointing fifth this year.


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Tim Pawlenty: Pawlenty, who has been seeking to cast himself as the establishment alternative to Romney, finished ninth in the straw poll with just 18 votes
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Sarah Palin: Palin had her hardcore supporters here, who carried signs and pins expressing their continued allegiance to the former Alaska governor. But she seems to be fading as a potential candidate;
Palin got just 41 votes in the straw poll; that's the sort of finish that suggests the activists aren't exactly clamoring for her to enter the race.
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to put it bluntly he could have said the people's whose jobs only existed because there was a boom economy but provided little real value to the company after the recession hit have been let go, these people need trained in jobs that are hiring, would have summed it up better
Hardly his truncated version. At AT&T I worked with women making $18.hr. and who grabbed all the overtime they could get. Many lacked even a High School education and were open about their luck in landing a well paying job not based on skill sets. Trained educated people couldn't do many of these jobs for long. They were frighteningly boring and repetitious. These women worked very hard doing exactly what the company wanted. They were upset but not surprised when their jobs were shipped to Asia.
No one twisted AT&T's arm to gain those wages, it was making money like at no other time because of silicon devices.

Their own Bell Labs engineers invented the transistor but couldn't think of a way to use it. (Japan had an idea)
We had an old LED line often described to me as "old technology" that sat idle for years. If an engineer suggested LED's had other uses than making your amp or receiver light up they weren't listened to.
AT&T had the first working picture phone in the sixties and the first flat panel monitor/TV in the late 80's. They gave it to a German primadonna who killed the line because he was busy installing a personal door to his office from outside. He was the only one permitted to smoke in that building and he wanted to air out the office.

Today a new reincarnation of AT&T is still acting as dumb as the old version in the phone market. When we allow a company to get too monopolistic, too comfortable and reluctant to explore possibilities we lose US jobs not to union greed but to company bureaucracy and stupidity. AT&T is a very stupid company but you can check that out with a contract.
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link it or admit that's BS.
Is your Google broken or did you miss it on network news? I heard it on ABC and there are several Google hits on the subject as well as YouTube.
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Is your Google broken or did you miss it on network news? I heard it on ABC and there are several Google hits on the subject as well as YouTube.
It is technically not what he said, as explained above. as usual it is taken why out of context and applied in a way that is not along the liens of the discussion that was taking place.
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It is technically not what he said, as explained above. as usual it is taken why out of context and applied in a way that is not along the liens of the discussion that was taking place.
ABC News is normally an Obama water boy media not known for picking on him. What on earth could Obama have been referring to if not the unemployment situation, OVER
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ABC News is normally an Obama water boy media not known for picking on him. What on earth could Obama have been referring to if not the unemployment situation, OVER
Are you really not getting this? or are you just going to keep going off with these statements till I give up?, no one was picking on him, he was addressing unemployment, and he stated an example (not a great one) about people needing to be trained for the jobs there are, not the jobs that there used to be.
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Are you really not getting this? or are you just going to keep going off with these statements till I give up?, no one was picking on him, he was addressing unemployment, and he stated an example (not a great one) about people needing to be trained for the jobs there are, not the jobs that there used to be.
Who is not getting it?
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