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Old 08-29-2011, 08:34 PM  
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If China demands its interest payments in gold, they can be told to go **** themselves. T-bills are a good place to store money because little of the real value of a t-bill isn't lost to inflation. But you won't increase the real value of wealth much, if at all, with t-bills either - the interest paid on them is very close to the inflation rate.

Which means those loans are effectively at 0%, and the 30 to 40 billion dollars you're referring to represents no loss to the nation, as it is payment for money previously received. You're only looking at half of the transaction, not the transaction as a whole.
china can't do that first of all, just as you can't go into a bank and demand that your check be paid in gold bullion, it's an absurd statement to make, second while they do buy a lot the amount isn't as significant as it is made out to be. Americans still own the bulk of the debt.
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Old 08-29-2011, 11:39 PM  
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So, was Obama wrong?
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Old 08-30-2011, 12:19 AM  
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:16 PM  
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Obama trying to re-establish a base left of center:
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Obama?s ?Project Vote? Hones Focus on Minorities, Counters GOP Effort on Voter Laws

ABC News' Devin Dwyer (@devindwyer) reports:

President Obama?s reelection campaign today launched a targeted voter outreach plan aimed at boosting registration and turnout among seven key minority constituencies for the 2012 election.

The initiative, called ?Project Vote,? will focus on engaging African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans, women, young adults, gays and lesbians and veterans, Obama for America said in a press release.

The demographic groups played a significant role in Obama?s 2008 victory and are expected to play an even more crucial role next fall.

?Project Vote will communicate with and engage targeted constituencies by reaching them where they are, in their communities and neighborhoods, and having one-on-one grassroots conversations about the issues they care about most ? jobs, health care and education,? the release said.

A campaign official told ABC News the strategy, part of a broader effort to expand the electorate and maximize participation, will develop customized messaging techniques for each constituency, utilizing social media, targeted ad buys, and door-to-door canvassing, among other tools.

Project Vote also appears positioned to counter Republican-sponsored efforts in dozens of states to impose tougher voter registration laws, some which Democrats have criticized as obstructionist and undemocratic.

?The campaign is very aware of the voter registration laws in many states,? an Obama campaign official said, adding that Project Vote would have a ?direct relationship? to those laws, educating voters on how to meet the requirements. ?Our staff in those states would be very well tuned in to those things,? the official said.

The initiative will be led from the Obama campaign?s Chicago headquarters by Buffy Wicks and Michael Blake, both formerly of the White House Office of Public Engagement, where they coordinated the administration's outreach to minority communities.

The campaign will have dedicated staff assigned to spearheading mobilization within each constituency as part of Project Vote, an official said.

?I don?t think any other campaign comes close to what we have set up at this point,? said an Obama campaign official, referring to the Republican presidential field.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:48 PM  
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A strange remark I heard today--'Obama is too much of a Republican.'

I don't know who said it or why they said it, fwiw.

And still, when someone else resides in the WH--what will they be able to do to rectify the problems?

I don't have much optimism.
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I think if someone with some real leadership gets in there, then we could have a bright(er) future.

I'm not overly optimistic, but I can always hope!
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Old 08-31-2011, 05:12 AM  
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I think if someone with some real leadership gets in there, then we could have a bright(er) future.

I'm not overly optimistic, but I can always hope!
Real leadership.

I suppose Donald Trump would qualify but I might not like his philosophy.
I haven't found a candidate about whom I don't have reservations.

Every time I see General Honore addressing catastrophic weather issues I think maybe someone like that. He would never run.
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I met General Honore while working the floods in Tennessee in May. That is a man with charisma and I couldn't agree with you more!
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