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Old 11-14-2010, 07:03 PM  
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Your refuse to look at reality. But the people know, that's why he lost and that's why he still is looked at like a quack. The proof is in front of you but you don't want to see it. I can't make you and by now don't care. I've proved my point.

To the best of our knowledge, this is over!!!
Oh yes... You've proved your point. Proved it beyond a shadow of any doubt. There is absolutely no confusion on the issue you demonstrated. Bravo.
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:35 PM  
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This thread is mostly laughable.

The internet sprang from DARPAnet which was started in the early 1980's or earlier (hit wiki for details). The purpose of DARPAnet was to create a network of networks with a protocol that would automatically reroute data packets in the event the most efficient route from one point to another was broken. It was designed to be a communications network that was able to withstand a limited nuclear strike. I first got access in college in 1984, and connectivity was awfully primitive by today's standards.

If Al Gore, as a politician, supported DARPAnet, fine. But I'm willing to bet my next paycheck he can't distinguish TCP from UDP. He didn't "invent" it, but he may have played a role, small or large, in securing funding for what ultimately became the internet.

It bears mentioning that in the early years, only a few universities and colleges were connected, and the idea of "wasting" the network with porn, pointless arguments, or (heaven forbid) commercial advertisements was abhorrent. No one wanted that. The network existed for information-sharing and scholarly work. So if Al did support ARPAnet in its early years, he sure didn't envision what it became today.
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This thread is mostly laughable.

The internet sprang from DARPAnet which was started in the early 1980's or earlier (hit wiki for details). The purpose of DARPAnet was to create a network of networks with a protocol that would automatically reroute data packets in the event the most efficient route from one point to another was broken. It was designed to be a communications network that was able to withstand a limited nuclear strike. I first got access in college in 1984, and connectivity was awfully primitive by today's standards.

If Al Gore, as a politician, supported DARPAnet, fine. But I'm willing to bet my next paycheck he can't distinguish TCP from UDP.
I'd take that bet. He might not be able to, but there is a VERY good chance that he could. He's not nearly as clueless as he's made out to be. Although I do think he drank the kool aid on anthropogenic climate change.
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He didn't "invent" it, but he may have played a role, small or large, in securing funding for what ultimately became the internet.
Late night comedians and political adversaries used the term "invent" - he did not. He "took the initiative in creating the internet". A legitimate, if poorly worded claim. Coming from a programmer, it would have meant he wrote the protocol stack; coming from a hardware guy, it would have meant he built routers and networking equipment. Coming from a politician, it clearly meant that he championed legislation compelling governmental support for the fledgling network, and defining public policy on its usage.

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It bears mentioning that in the early years, only a few universities and colleges were connected, and the idea of "wasting" the network with porn, pointless arguments, or (heaven forbid) commercial advertisements was abhorrent. No one wanted that. The network existed for information-sharing and scholarly work. So if Al did support ARPAnet in its early years, he sure didn't envision what it became today.
Read the congressional record. He played a much bigger role than most people know.
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I'd take that bet. He might not be able to, but there is a VERY good chance that he could. He's not nearly as clueless as he's made out to be.
My offer is for him to do it, not you. And off the cuff, not given a few minutes' warning while parked at google.com.

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Although I do think he drank the kool aid on anthropogenic climate change.
I'd say he mixed the kool-aid.

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Late night comedians and political adversaries used the term "invent" - he did not. He "took the initiative in creating the internet". A legitimate, if poorly worded claim. Coming from a programmer, it would have meant he wrote the protocol stack; coming from a hardware guy, it would have meant he built routers and networking equipment. Coming from a politician, it clearly meant that he championed legislation compelling governmental support for the fledgling network, and defining public policy on its usage.
Fair enough. And I presume he's coming at it from the politician's angle. Really, it's great that funding was secured for DARPAnet and the nascent internet. I'm not sure where Gore and others thought it would go, but it would be interesting to read their predictions back then.

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Read the congressional record. He played a much bigger role than most people know.
Got a link handy? (I can look it up if not.)

No one's all bad, and I don't have a problem with Gore and his comments on the internet. I most certainly DO have a problem with his trying to create an hysteria around AGW and profiting from that hysteria.
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