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Old 12-29-2015, 11:37 AM  
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A little history on gun control

A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY TO THINK ABOUT.......December 29, 2015 marks the 125th Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection”. The slaughter began after the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. The Calvary began shooting, and managed to wipe out the entire camp. 200 of the 297 victims were women and children. About 40 members of the 7th Cavalry were killed, but over half of them were victims of fratricide from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms.

TWENTY members of the 7th Cavalry's death squad, were deemed “National Heroes” and were awarded the Medal of Honor for their acts of [cowardice] heroism.

We hear very little of Wounded Knee today. It is usually not mentioned in our history classes or books. What little that does exist about Wounded Knee is normally a sanitized “Official Government Explanation”. And there are several historically inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre, which appear in movie scripts and are not the least bit representative of the actual events that took place that day.

Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history. It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.

Before you jump on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment, the right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of invading armies or an oppressive government. The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine. When the United States Constitution was drafted, “hunting” was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each night, and “target shooting” was an unheard of concept. Musket balls were a precious commodity and were certainly not wasted on “target shooting”. The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and it refers to the right of American citizens to be armed for defensive purposes, should such tyranny arise in the United States.

As time goes forward, the average citizen in the United States continually loses little chunks of personal freedom or “liberty”. Far too many times, unjust gun control bills were passed and signed into law under the guise of “for your safety” or “for protection”. The Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, was expanded and continues under Barack Obama. It is just one of many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy for “safety”. Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table, and will, most likely be attacked to facilitate the path for the removal of our firearms, all in the name of “our safety”.

Before any American citizen blindly accepts whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, they should stop and think about something for just one minute-
Evil does exist in our world. It always has and always will. Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts. In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel. We can not legislate “evil” into extinction. Good people will abide by the law, and the criminal element will always find a way around it.

Evil exists all around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years, across the globe, where is “evil” and “malevolence” most often found? In the hands of those with the power, the governments. That greatest human tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be attributed to governments. Who do the governments always target? “Scapegoats” and “enemies” within their own borders…but only after they have been disarmed to the point where they are no longer a threat. Ask any Native American, and they will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to their demise. Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate millions of them, and they will answer “We were disarmed before it happened”. Ask any Jew what Hitler’s first step prior to the mass murders of the Holocaust was- confiscation of firearms from the people.

Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists, and why we should vehemently resist any attempts to infringe on our Rights to Bear Arms. Without the Second Amendment we will be totally stripped of any ability to defend ourselves and our families.
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Old 01-01-2016, 01:17 AM  
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They would have murdered those Indians either way. We were really good at taking what we wanted once we showed up with our surveying equipment.

Myself, I kinda get tired of all the gun idiots whining about gun control. There IS no gun control that amounts to anything. Even a token nod of acknowledgement about the need to do something to stem gun violence is fought tooth and nail by the NRA. Even the notion of banning those radicals in our country that are on "No Fly" lists is scorned by the NRA. For Christ sake folks. When is enough, enough? Why can't there at least be a discussion about preventing people on a no fly list from obtaining guns? This country is being over run by weeds.
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They would have murdered those Indians either way. We were really good at taking what we wanted once we showed up with our surveying equipment.

Myself, I kinda get tired of all the gun idiots whining about gun control. There IS no gun control that amounts to anything. Even a token nod of acknowledgement about the need to do something to stem gun violence is fought tooth and nail by the NRA. Even the notion of banning those radicals in our country that are on "No Fly" lists is scorned by the NRA. For Christ sake folks. When is enough, enough? Why can't there at least be a discussion about preventing people on a no fly list from obtaining guns? This country is being over run by weeds.
Because we are a nation of laws.
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The Sixth Amendment (Amendment VI) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that sets forth rights related to criminal prosecutions. The Supreme Court has applied the protections of this amendment to the states through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
The people on the no fly list...which included Ted Kennedy, have been denied their day in court. You are advocating people have their rights denied them with out being charged with a crime let alone convicted.
You want gun safety....make the USA a gun free zone like all of the places that have had mass shootings already were.....wait.....that didn't work.
Repeal all gun controls so we can defend ourselves. For some reason the cowards that shoot people do so where they are sure no one else has a gun. That and declare war on the street gangs. Try, convict, and hang them.

Stop blaming an inanimate object and look to the human factor for the answer.
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Speaking of guns

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it." - Senator Feinstein (D)
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/

Gun homicide down sharply.
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http://2ndamendmentfight.com/federal...onstitutional/
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Because we are a nation of laws.
I was speaking more of the human race. This is a good example.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...deaths/260189/
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What we need are fewer people like you. I know you only come on here to see how many people you can get to leave, like you did as a mod.
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What we need are fewer people like you. I know you only come on here to see how many people you can get to leave, like you did as a mod.
Really Sam? I thought you were smarter than that. I used to have respect for you. I still like you though.

Okay, first of all, it was the likes of little hitler jake, and Mark who drove off the masses that never frequented this place in the first place. Unsure of the amount of time that I was gone from here, something like 2 or 3 years, and just like myself, a whole lot of other people left and the proof is in the lack of activity here.

That being said....

I noticed that if someone has a different point of view than the common mentality here, they are singled out. Talk about a herd mindset. What ever happened to individuality? Guess everyone has to look alike, eat alike and think alike. I find it un democratic. This forum must be owned, operated and staffed by members of his highness of the throne of North Korea.

Sam, and whoever else it concerns or cares? I own guns. I even have a few evil guns. But I don't get an erection at the mere thought of guns like some folks do. I say this because I have a very good friend who is a militia member, avid gun nut and a person who commented that he loves guns better than sex!!!

There are plenty of responsible gun owners in this country. Folks who have guns, who hunt, who clean their guns, but have a life too! I can't help it if the articles that I present like the article of Japans gun violence verses our own country. I'm sorry if I put forth MY opinion and MY take on things as a tax paying, hard working, community supporting red blooded AMERICAN liberal voter!

Lastly, if you want to point a finger at the most active troll of late on your site, look at one of your 3 active members such as EDDIE T who probably is one of your other accounts.... but just look your poll percentage of postings in the political arena, which by definition is a "hot spot" then ask yourself if you are real or not because I know you're trying to bolster this forum up from the 3 or 4 regular members to perhaps 5 or 6, but before you go slamming your guests here, just remember what your job title here really is..........

Lastly, and I mention this to help you be a better moderator and a better person. If you have a gripe with someone, such as me...... pull me off to the side or send a private message just like the one I sent you a few minutes ago. Making a spectacle of someone is no measure of refereeing. Earning peoples respect is how you make an impression. That's probably why Alex left here, because he was too good for this crap hole.
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