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Old 05-02-2011, 12:28 PM  
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Obama makes me proud!

Since fulfilling his promise and going further than any other leader, and finally capturing Bin Laden. I must say that I'm beaming this morning. I know that many will try to detract from Obamas resounding success and glorious victory, but our president, Mr Obama, deserves some long over due recognition.
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:28 PM  
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I think Obama will be remembered in the long view as a good president, In the short term though people don't like change and I think the healthcare plan was too big for some people's comfort level but once it gets ironed out I think people will wonder what all the fuss was about.

We may never know exactly how little or how much of a role obama and his policies really played in catching Osama though, regardless this will certainly help him come election time.
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:55 PM  
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I'd like to know just how many are doing better under this administration? I certainly am not!
Clinton gave Bush a surplus which Bush squandered on 2 OIL WARS and tax rebates to BIG OIL.

A deficit Obama needed to spend money to prevent becoming a Depression rather than a bad recession. During the last recession FDR pulled out all the stops to balance the budget. He succeeded and the next year was the worst year of the Great Depression.

No one really knows how to end these economic slumps without a big war. I suggest we declare war on Saudi Arabia and keep their oil. Wahabi Islam hates the US.

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How about we drill our OWN oil and keep it off the world market?
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:12 PM  
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think its funni how the U.S.A kills bin laden right before re-election.WOW!!!!
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:15 PM  
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think its funni how the U.S.A kills bin laden right before re-election.WOW!!!!
Bin Ladin sacrificed himself to help keep a Muslim president in charge of the US. Wait until you see what he puts into place in his second term.
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How about we drill our OWN oil and keep it off the world market?
so you recommend privatizing our oil companies.... so are you one of the people that claim Obama is a socialist or one that hopes he actually is? Because that pretty much fits the actual definition of socialism. And that would be a very anti-business sentiment if the government could just take over whenever they want, plus we don't have enough oil to do that, we would still have to import oil at the current market rate. we only export a small amount to Canada where they have a closer refinery as it is. Even if we tapped all possible economically reachable reserves we couldn't come close to being self sufficient.
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Bin Ladin sacrificed himself to help keep a Muslim president in charge of the US. Wait until you see what he puts into place in his second term.
I hope you are parodying the insane right wingers........
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:14 PM  
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Special operations forces were on the ground for less than 40 minutes, he said, and they were watched in real time by CIA Director Leon Panetta and other intelligence officials in a conference room at CIA headquarters in Langley, Va.
U.S. officials said one of bin Laden's sons and two of his most trusted couriers also were killed, as was an unidentified woman who was used as a human shield. Al Arabiya TV reported that two of bin Laden's wives and four of his children were captured.
Afterward, the team returned to Afghanistan with bin Laden's body, which was buried at sea . Brennan said DNA analysis had established with "99.9 percent certainty" that the body was bin Laden's; one of bin Laden's wives, who survived the firefight in the compound, also identified him, another U.S. official told NBC News.
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Brennan would not describe bin Laden's burial except to say it was conducted "according to Islamic requirements." A senior U.S. official told NBC News that he was slipped into the North Arabian Sea from the deck of the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier after a ritual washing and religious remarks.
Islamic tradition calls for a body to be buried within 24 hours, but finding a country willing to accept bin Laden's remains would have been difficult, a senior administration official said. Bin Laden's native Saudi Arabia had long renounced him.
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Four helicopters swoop in
Brennan said U.S. intelligence was not 100 percent certain that bin Laden would be at the site but that intelligence developed by "very, very good people who have been following bin Laden for many, many years" gave them a high degree of confidence.
The lack of complete certainty led to a spirited discussion in the Situation Room before Obama made "one of the gutsiest calls of any president in recent memory," Brennan said.
The scene in the Situation Room
Bin Laden was indeed holed up in a two-story house 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy when four helicopters carrying U.S. forces swooped in . His guards opened fire on the commandos, and his final hiding place was left in flames, witnesses said.

One of the helicopters was forced to land unexpectedly because the steep walls of the compound left too little air beneath it to allow it to hover over the scene as planned, a senior administration official told NBC News' Courtney Kube.
The same condition made it impossible for the helicopter to take off afterward, the official said, leading U.S. forces to destroy the craft on the ground to protect its technology and intelligence.
U.S. officials said no Americans were hurt in the operation.

Brennan said that the initial mission included the directive to capture bin Laden alive if possible, but that forces were prepared "for all contingencies."

"The concern was that bin Laden would oppose any type of capture operation. Indeed, he did. It was a firefight. He, therefore, was killed in that firefight," Brennan sad.

Bin Laden even attempted to use his wife as a human shield, he said.

Brennan acknowledged that there was not unanimity among the president’s national security team before Obama gave the go order. Intelligence offered the best evidence of the terrorist mastermind’s whereabouts, but it was still short of full confirmation, he added.

“There was nothing that confirmed that bin Laden was at that compound. And, therefore, when President Obama was faced with the opportunity to act upon this, the president had to evaluate the strength of that information and then made what I believe was one of the most gutsiest calls of any president in recent memory,” he said.

Following the historic announcement, the White House worked carefully Monday to highlight Obama's leadership role.

Press secretary Jay Carney began the afternoon briefing by quoting Obama's words as a candidate in 2007, when he said that if the United States had actionable intelligence about high value targets in Pakistan and its government didn’t act, “we will.”

“The president, even before he was president when he was a candidate, had a very clear idea about the approach he would take as president towards Osama bin Laden,” Carney said.

In response to questions, Brennan said it was “inconceivable” that bin Laden did not have a support system in Pakistan that allowed him to remain there for a long period of time.

Asked about reports that some in Congress now want to attach strings to aid to Pakistan, he said: “People are raising a number of questions and understandably so. I’m sure a number of people have questions about whether there was some kind of support provided by the Pakistani government.”
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think its funni how the U.S.A kills bin laden right before re-election.WOW!!!!
That election is 18 months away.
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"Grandstanding" is how you describe killing our most hated enemy? Would you prefer Obama let him live until an airhead or a bad toupe' was in position to kill him?

Forget about 2012, you're stuck with a black leader till 2016.

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By Christi Parsons, Washington Bureau
May 2, 2011, 9:09 a.m.
Reporting from Washington? President Obama monitored the operation that led to the death of Osama bin Laden from the White House Situation Room on Sunday, a senior administration official said.

National security advisor Tom Donilon, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper were with the president during the operation, the official said.

CIA Director Leon Panetta was at the White House at several points during the day.

Photos: Osama bin Laden dead

Vice President Joe Biden was present from 1 p.m. EDT until the operation was over, senior officials said. He made calls to several congressional leaders and also reviewed the president's remarks before he gave them.

In March, the president ordered his team to develop "several possible courses of action" for invading the Abbottabad, Pakistan, site where Bin Laden was found, according to the administration official. The team brought several options to the president for review. Those options were "refined" over the course of the next several weeks, but the president did not authorize the bombing of the compound, the official said.

On Friday, the president gave the go-ahead for the Navy SEALs to go in. The original plan was for them to go in Saturday but due to weather considerations, they changed it to Sunday.

Additional details are expected at 1:45 p.m. EDT today, when senior national security officials will join White House Press Secretary Jay Carney to talk about the operation.

Photos: Osama bin Laden dead
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