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Old 02-29-2016, 08:46 PM  
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I don't know, you could be right. I just know that I was hit by a car while pedistrianing (my word) back in the mid 1980s. Was rushed to the hospital where they carried me outside the emergency doors and set me on the sidewalk when they found out I had no insurance. No crutches, no pain meds. Nothing. A cop saw me crawling on my hands and knees and took me home. Wife never could afford health insurance what with her pre existing conditions. We almost lost the house 3 times. Once she got on medicare, she was then able to get a hip replaced and a laminectomy. Never would have happened under the watchful eyes of the bean counting insurance companies. Later on when Obama care came about, we were able to get a supplemental that was actually affordable. For this family anyways....... government healthcare was a godsend and we totally desire for the public option. I could tell you other stories of friends of ours, one of which is dead now, whom have been screwed by insurance companies and the medical field, but government medicare and Medicaid, saved the day. I'm not trying to preach the gospel of socialized healthcare, I just think it sucks when profits are put before peoples health, whether it be socialized medicine or free market capitalism. It just angers me when someone or some corporation is profiting at another persons expense over a government trying to holster costs by curbing your treatments. Both situations suck balls, it's just that one is more criminal than anything else.
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:11 AM  
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Lots of things contribute to the high costs of medical no doubt but my gosh, I think the free enterprise theme scares me a bit more than the government when it comes to healthcare anyways. There was a time, and it's still going on to a certain degree, the insurance companies could deny coverage, jack your rates up or even just drop you all together. I think that if you're going to have private interests in the healthcare line up, that is the medical administratives at hospitals, and ceo's of the insurance companies calling the shots, then you surely need some government oversight or at least an unfettered pathway to legal representation, that is reasonably quick and affordable.
If free enterprise scares you move to Canada or something. Please don't contribute to to the destruction of this country. Why can't Earth have one country for those of us that want a free society? Must every country be screwed up...can't we have even one that enjoys Capitalism free of socialism?
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:00 PM  
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No, it was for insurance companies to keep accepting pre existing conditions.

Who knows what will replace Obama Care or ACA, but, it is for sure that it will get replaced or massively changed so that it works at least a little bit more correctly and is fair. The idea that in a Republic, which America is, that the populace is forced to act as a collective in providing for everybody else's health care is not going to fly for very long. The Affordable Care Act was found only to be legal under our constitution as a tax. And a tax is really is what it is.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:05 PM  
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If free enterprise scares you move to Canada or something. Please don't contribute to to the destruction of this country. Why can't Earth have one country for those of us that want a free society? Must every country be screwed up...can't we have even one that enjoys Capitalism free of socialism?
I sure hope not! Talk about the ultimate death panels, and there is a well documented history of it! Socialism is freedom! Most Americans love their medicare. Those few that don't, want to see rich insurance corporations get even richer. It's like those people who give all their money to their church. WTF? Obama care ain't perfect but at least it covers more than the insurance companies covered.


I'd take Canada's, Britain's, France's or New Zealand's socialized healthcare any time over my blue cross, which sucks in nearly every regard. I have a very good friend whose brother married a gal in New Zealand then moved there. He made it known that he was never going to return to the states on account of their healthcare. My lifelong friend's mother married a fellow from France and it's the same deal. Apart from visits, she isn't coming back. She told me once that you can easily get Oxycontin in France and the doctors make house calls. I guess if you have to take a taxi to get to the hospital or doctor, that they reimburse you the cost of your fare. You won't see that in America!
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Old 03-02-2016, 11:05 AM  
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Nobody owes you a taxi ride so I suggest you get a job and earn the fare yourself.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:11 PM  
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Nobody owes you a taxi ride so I suggest you get a job and earn the fare yourself.
That's a mighty unwarranted assumption that I'm somehow a welfare bum, because I happen to be a fan of socialized medicine. I suppose it never occurred to you that liberals actually work for their living? For what it's worth... I'm a welder by trade. I build docks, and lately, I'm building a self propelled barge with a pile driver there mister. Contrary to your outlook, not everyone is a slouch, and I ain't asking for anything for free. Everyone has a right to certain things. Medical coverage is no exception. There should be basic safety nets in a civilized society. Every developing country on the planet has socialized healthcare to one extent or another that covers medical basics, and some countries like Germany offers additional insurance options for additional coverage if you want to pay for it above and beyond. Lots of people who work in this country die because they can't get healthcare on account of expense. Free enterprise has killed a whole lot of people and ruined others lives. Obama care is a step in the right direction. More people who previously were not covered, now are.
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By the way, everything you see on the center portion of this barge, I welded. Music in a bottle is Christopher "Hardwire" Ghandi!
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:48 PM  
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I don't see where healthcare is covered in the Constitutions...could you point out this "Right" to me?

I am all for affordable healthcare.....nothing is free.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:57 PM  
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I don't see where healthcare is covered in the Constitutions...could you point out this "Right" to me?

I am all for affordable healthcare.....nothing is free.
You act as though the constitution is scripture or the oracle or something. There's more to life than the constitution.

I think you no understand me. Socialized healthcare is brought about through taxes. I work.......... therefore......healthcare! Folks work their whole lives through. Insurance companies don't have the backs of senior citizens. Medicare does!
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:51 PM  
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You act as though the constitution is scripture or the oracle or something. There's more to life than the constitution.

I think you no understand me. Socialized healthcare is brought about through taxes. I work.......... therefore......healthcare! Folks work their whole lives through. Insurance companies don't have the backs of senior citizens. Medicare does!
So you are OK with only the people who have earned healthcare receiving it then?
Your OK with people who take care of themselves and hardly ever need healthcare paying for other peoples bad lifestyle choices?

I don't know about you but I don't care to help pay for abortions or aids treatments for butt lovers. Not crazy about paying for someone else to have chemo because they smoke either.

You need catastrophic health care insurance and affordable family doctors.
Pay for it yourself. Don't pay for it....die. You ant going to live forever anyway.

Yes the Constitution is like scripture in that it is the fabric of this Christian Nation.
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