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Old 11-02-2010, 01:50 PM  
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Unions - Good/Bad

We have some of the highest paid firefighters in the State of Texas despite being a small town with not a lot happening compared to border towns or metro areas.

A local candidate for Mayor mentioned this and maybe it's time to re-evaluate esp. because of the economy.

Their Union went crazy. We have been getting non-stop mailers and phone calls from the FF Union blasting the candidate. Really brutal stuff, way over the top. Acting like an Employment Mafia almost.

What are your thoughts on Unions in our modern society?
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:00 PM  
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Bad, very bad.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:01 AM  
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Some are good; others are bad. Not sure how much they are needed today as opposed to when they were first created.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:09 AM  
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We have some of the highest paid firefighters in the State of Texas despite being a small town with not a lot happening compared to border towns or metro areas.

A local candidate for Mayor mentioned this and maybe it's time to re-evaluate esp. because of the economy.

Their Union went crazy. We have been getting non-stop mailers and phone calls from the FF Union blasting the candidate. Really brutal stuff, way over the top. Acting like an Employment Mafia almost.

What are your thoughts on Unions in our modern society?
So...how did the election turn out?
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:05 AM  
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Good and bad?

I hate not being able to collectively negotiate, there is strength in numbers, but I hate that more often than not they are a political entity pushing an agenda.

Having been some one who lived sparsely, bellow the poverty line, worked 40+ hours a week, and barely made it, labor laws only ensure that you will not be whipped, but you cannot survive on what most lower paying jobs offer. They are still necessary, everyone loves the jobs, but the free market does not ensure a living wage.

So like I said, good/bad.
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:46 PM  
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Unnecessary at this point and they do far more harm than good. It's not like 100 years ago where there were no federal regulations for safety, pay, ect. Most unions are totally backwards from what unions were intended for anyway.

If nothing else government employees, including teachers, shouldn't be able to forum or participate in unions.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:55 PM  
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DETNEWS | WebVideo | Ford's most advanced assembly plant operates in rural Brazil

Watch and learn, listen to the last statement made and you will understand why, for one of many reasons, the US will fall.
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:39 PM  
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DETNEWS | WebVideo | Ford's most advanced assembly plant operates in rural Brazil

Watch and learn, listen to the last statement made and you will understand why, for one of many reasons, the US will fall.
I don't think the Unions' aversion to allowing supplier integration in a highly-automated and extremely efficient manufacturing facility will take the U.S. down. I think they'll take themselves down. But it will be a messy, bumpy ride.

To answer the OP's question, unions can be beneficial and they can be disastrous. Lately, we've seen a lot more disastrous stupidity from the likes of Trumka's AFL-CIO and the SEIU rather than beneficial, intelligent compromise for the benefit of company and employee. It may be the era of unions is over, and this is their last-gasp effort to remain in play as en entity to reckon with.
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Old 11-19-2010, 05:28 PM  
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I don't think the Unions' aversion to allowing supplier integration in a highly-automated and extremely efficient manufacturing facility will take the U.S. down. I think they'll take themselves down. But it will be a messy, bumpy ride.

To answer the OP's question, unions can be beneficial and they can be disastrous. Lately, we've seen a lot more disastrous stupidity from the likes of Trumka's AFL-CIO and the SEIU rather than beneficial, intelligent compromise for the benefit of company and employee. It may be the era of unions is over, and this is their last-gasp effort to remain in play as en entity to reckon with.

Really had nothing to do with supplier integration.....although it really is smart.


It has more to do with cost of production and employee costs.

The Unions are being used to drive US manufacturing out of the country, this is by design, transfer of wealth..

GM is looking for an international buyer...they are building up the stock value as they are courting buyers.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:03 PM  
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Ahhh, more conspiracy theories
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