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Old 05-26-2011, 11:15 AM  
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and in 1967 at THOSE same borders, we're they not attacked? What's different now?
THINK about it . . . appeasement!!
If it was appeasement today what was it when Israels last prime minister offered those same lines as acceptable for peace?

Dayan & Netanyahu have been the most outspoken Israeli hawks. sixty three year old war will simply continue until it draws the US into war. You should know the players before calling it anything as ludicrous as appeasement. Netanyahu is playing to the Christian Right and it's working.
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If it was appeasement today what was it when Israels last prime minister offered those same lines as acceptable for peace?

Dayan & Netanyahu have been the most outspoken Israeli hawks. sixty three year old war will simply continue until it draws the US into war. You should know the players before calling it anything as ludicrous as appeasement. Netanyahu is playing to the Christian Right and it's working.
It was precisely the same as Churchil's predicessor's appeasement to Hitler prior to WWII, APPEASEMENT.
And you, sir, should read your history before agreeing with appeasement . . .It won't work

What the problem is, is these people were NOT happy with the 67 borders, they attacked then, and giving up ground fought for in any war, no matter how long it is is ludicris. It's naive to think that will satisfy this problem, what they want is the Jews OUT, period, and extermination is the prefered method. Many Arab states were Nazi sympethisers during WWII.
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It was precisely the same as Churchil's predicessor's appeasement to Hitler prior to WWII, APPEASEMENT.
And you, sir, should read your history before agreeing with appeasement . . .It won't work
Chamberlin tried to appease Hitler but Churchill never previously offered those same terms. That would have related, this does not. The Arabs have attacked all Israeli borders since 1948.
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Chamberlin tried to appease Hitler but Churchill never previously offered those same terms. That would have related, this does not. The Arabs have attacked all Israeli borders since 1948.
Isreal's previous PM vs Britain's previous PM = WAR and appeasement failer.

ALL is the Key in your statement, The Arabs have attack ALL Isreali borders since 1948, point well taken, moving borders back to 1967's borders will do what? NOTHING but add to the list of FAILED APPEASEMANTS.
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Isreal's previous PM vs Britain's previous PM = WAR and appeasement failer.

ALL is the Key in your statement, The Arabs have attack ALL Isreali borders since 1948, point well taken, moving borders back to 1967's borders will do what? NOTHING but add to the list of FAILED APPEASEMANTS.
There is a much bigger picture than you see. If Israel fails to get a peace agreement further wars are certain. Already the Egyptian government is opening it's border with Gaza. If Syria, Libya, Yemen and Jordan join Tunisia & Egypt in a new Arab Spring Coalition the US will be drawn into a needless war. One that Israel may not survive.

This new concern for the Jews arises out of a Religious Right belief that Israel must be intact when the end of the world occurs.
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No, Isreal is and was pretty much doomed from the starting gates. No appeasements will ever stop that. And most of the "ARAB coalition" was and is in tact with a resolve to exterminate the Jews and that started long before Isreal was created in 1948. We WILL be dragged into WWIII there and no appeasement will stop it.
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Is this for real, Obama and Netanyahu at age 20? B.B. seems a bit more serious doesn't he?
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Is this for real, Obama and Netanyahu at age 20? B.B. seems a bit more serious doesn't he?
Are you making a point or just being silly?
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Are you making a point or just being silly?
Actually it makes a pretty clear point!
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One is in college
One is going to war

Perhaps you mean Neanyahu is always armed?
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