Hi everyone, Funny about the "upstate" thing. When my family first moved to Orange county, (Washingtonville) in 77' we always call it upstate. Now live in Ulster county, (New Platz) and folks here don't think anything below Albany is called that.
Have always felt the Hudson Valley ran from Rockland, (West side of river)/Westchester, (East side of river) to Albany. Everthing north became the Adirondacks.