JAKE7: You could visit the University of Zurichs Natural Museum of History. You will see incredible FOSSILS , a Nautilus 4feet by 4 feet ,tall and others with strange sea creatures embedded in them , that are none existent today.They are millions of years old, excavated from of all places, Utah and some Swiss mountain regions , and other erias. There were oceans there 4 or more mill years ago. And yes, they are carbon dated.
I had a long discussion with a panentheist a couple years back. I thought it interesting that from a pantheistic mindset, atheism and nihilism are nearly synonymous. To a pantheist, a person who lacks belief in a god comprised (in part) of everything in nature and a person who lacks belief in nature itself are practically identical.
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I'm a Pantheist.
MANY People are Pantheists even when they claim to be christian, catholic, etc.
Some have no belief and such belief of no belief is ones' own choice not to be ridiculed but seen as a new form of knowledge.
There is no right or wrong approach to belief.
What works for you is yours as mine is mine, theirs is theirs, et cetera.
Long as someone doesn't put a gun to me head and tell me what to believe or that what they believe is the only belief, all is well in the Universe!!
Also an atheist here. I believe, in reality, my father was also one, while my mom had a deep, true faith in God. It's just my take on things. I have no desire to turn people from their beliefs, nor do I want to be "saved". I tend to believe in Ayn Rand's thoughts towards a sense of self as to what defines us.
I'm agnostic. I do not know(nobody else does either) whether or not there's anything after death but I'm sure that if there is the good part will not be reserved for a group of folks who believe a 2000 year old Jewish fairy tale.
RIVAL; There is a very good web site "THE PANENTHEIST" it can explain exactly what it is (better than I can) also THE DECLARATION OF GLOBAL ETHICS. I think you might find that interesting reading if you should want to. I also attend at times the Unitarian Universalist meetings. I could agre with the panteistic view , however I do not exclude God.
RIVAL; There is a very good web site "THE PANENTHEIST" it can explain exactly what it is (better than I can) also THE DECLARATION OF GLOBAL ETHICS. I think you might find that interesting reading if you should want to. I also attend at times the Unitarian Universalist meetings. I could agre with the panteistic view , however I do not exclude God.
As I understand the two, "Pantheism" is the idea that the sum total of existence *is* god, while "Panentheism" is the idea that the sum total of existence is a *part* of god.
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