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Old 07-03-2011, 07:05 PM  
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I am not English and have never heard the term. My first language is a form of English that is often referred to as "American-English"


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Old 07-03-2011, 07:15 PM  
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You know what? I hate you.



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I won't judge you on your hatred issues either, it must be rough enough to not have a GOD to pray to for a SMALL fee, I can sign you up at my church.

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Old 07-03-2011, 09:41 PM  
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"Sour Grapes"

Those two words probably have meaning to you, as they do for most English speakers. They refer to one of Aesop's Fables. A fox, after making several a futile attempt at obtaining a bunch of grapes, walked away, uttering that they were probably sour anyway.

Yet I am fairly certain that you don't believe in talking foxes.
RA: Here again you sidestep the issue. You are the one who brought up the Aesop's fables and sour grapes.

If you are so right on as you project yourself to be why sidestep so many questions?
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:10 PM  
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RA: Here again you sidestep the issue. You are the one who brought up the Aesop's fables and sour grapes.
That response specifically addresses comments HiHood made about the english language including references to god in common parlance. It was asserted that because "Good Bye" is a contraction of the phrase "God Be with you", that any time an atheist said "Good Bye" he was acknowledging the existence of god.

A person using the phrase "Sour Grapes" need not believe the literal truth the fable; he's using the phrase to express an idea that most likely has nothing to do with grapes or foxes, let alone talking foxes. Similarly, a person using the phrase "Good Bye" is expressing a pleasantry, not necessarily a belief in god.
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If you are so right on as you project yourself to be why sidestep so many questions?
I think I've demonstrated that there was no sidestepping of any issue, but a direct rebuttal of an earlier argument.
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Think about it, Atheists couldn't even curse (an appeal to a supernatural power for harm to come to a specific person, group, etc.) were it not for God.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:58 AM  
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Think about it, Atheists couldn't even curse (an appeal to a supernatural power for harm to come to a specific person, group, etc.) were it not for God.
Good point but, once I thought about it, I've never heard a true atheist curse anyone or thing.

Emphasis on "true". There are some atheist who spew for the shock factor, but then again, there are some professed Christians who.......spew as well.

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Old 07-05-2011, 11:18 AM  
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Think about it, Atheists couldn't even curse (an appeal to a supernatural power for harm to come to a specific person, group, etc.) were it not for God.
Sounds like you're equivocating "cursing" and the use of expletives. I know plenty of people who do the the latter, but only a theist or other believer of supernatural powers could do the former.
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Good point but, once I thought about it, I've never heard a true atheist curse anyone or thing.

Emphasis on "true". There are some atheist who spew for the shock factor, but then again, there are some professed Christians who.......spew as well.

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