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Old 08-17-2011, 10:28 AM  
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GLC included this in a letter to me and I found it to be very thought provoking:
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The Question That Changed My Life, by David Ryser

A number of years ago, I had the privilege of teaching at a school of ministry. My students were hungry for God, and I was constantly searching for ways to challenge them to fall more in love with Jesus and to become voices for revival in the Church. I came across a quote attributed most often to Rev. Sam Pascoe. It is a short version of the history of Christianity, and it goes like this:

Christianity started in Palestine as a fellowship; it moved to Greece and became a philosophy; it moved to Italy and became an institution; it moved to Europe and became a culture; it came to America and became an enterprise.

Some of the students were only 18 or 19 years old?barely out of diapers?and I wanted them to understand and appreciate the import of the last line, so I clarified it by adding, ?An enterprise. That?s a business.? After a few moments Martha, the youngest student in the class, raised her hand. I could not imagine what her question might be. I thought the little vignette was self-explanatory, and that I had performed it brilliantly. Nevertheless, I acknowledged Martha?s raised hand, ?Yes, Martha.? She asked such a simple question, ?A business? But isn?t it supposed to be a body?? I could not envision where this line of questioning was going, and the only response I could think of was, ?Yes.? She continued, ?But when a body becomes a business, isn?t that a prostitute??

The room went dead silent. For several seconds no one moved or spoke. We were stunned, afraid to make a sound because the presence of God had flooded into the room, and we knew we were on holy ground. All I could think in those sacred moments was, ?Wow, I wish I?d thought of that.? I didn?t dare express that thought aloud. God had taken over the class.

Martha?s question changed my life. For six months, I thought about her question at least once every day. ?When a body becomes a business, isn?t that a prostitute?? There is only one answer to her question. The answer is ?Yes.? The American Church, tragically, is heavily populated by people who do not love God. How can we love Him? We don?t even know Him; and I mean really know Him.

? I stand by my statement that most American Christians do not know God?much less love Him. The root of this condition originates in how we came to God. Most of us came to Him because of what we were told He would do for us. We were promised that He would bless us in life and take us to heaven after death. We married Him for His money, and we don?t care if He lives or dies as long as we can get His stuff. We have made the Kingdom of God into a business, merchandising His anointing. This should not be. We are commanded to love God, and are called to be the Bride of Christ?that?s pretty intimate stuff. We are supposed to be His lovers. How can we love someone we don?t even know? And even if we do know someone, is that a guarantee that we truly love them? Are we lovers or prostitutes?

I was pondering Martha?s question again one day, and considered the question, ?What?s the difference between a lover and a prostitute?? I realized that both do many of the same things, but a lover does what she does because she loves. A prostitute pretends to love, but only as long as you pay. Then I asked the question, ?What would happen if God stopped paying me??

For the next several months, I allowed God to search me to uncover my motives for loving and serving Him. Was I really a true lover of God? What would happen if He stopped blessing me? What if He never did another thing for me? Would I still love Him? Please understand, I believe in the promises and blessings of God. The issue here is not whether God blesses His children; the issue is the condition of my heart. Why do I serve Him? Are His blessings in my life the gifts of a loving Father, or are they a wage that I have earned or a bribe/payment to love Him? Do I love God without any conditions? It took several months to work through these questions. Even now I wonder if my desire to love God is always matched by my attitude and behavior. I still catch myself being disappointed with God and angry that He has not met some perceived need in my life. I suspect this is something which is never fully resolved, but I want more than anything else to be a true lover of God.

So what is it going to be? Which are we, lover or prostitute? There are no prostitutes in heaven, or in the Kingdom of God for that matter, but there are plenty of former prostitutes in both places. Take it from a recovering prostitute when I say there is no substitute for unconditional, intimate relationship with God. And I mean there is no palatable substitute available to us (take another look at Matthew 7:21-23 sometime). We must choose.

-Dr. David Ryser.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:04 PM  
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Christianity started in Palestine as a fellowship; it moved to Greece and became a philosophy; it moved to Italy and became an institution; it moved to Europe and became a culture; it came to America and became an enterprise.
somebody needs to study some geography! lol
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:06 AM  
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well--teaching is the second oldest profession--i am/was a teacher--so i am a professional whore.

how can I help you--i will try.

may not be able to do much---nearly died teaching inner city middle school.

such is life.

such a wonderful career choice. I had no idea-i really didn't.

anything involving the government---just don't think of doing it.

i have sinned --a fallen woman--an absolute whore of a woman.

i am going to 'H'--yes, I am.

a teacher should be perfect---but i am afraid i am not. it will be hot down there. sigh---lots of teachers down there.
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:06 AM  
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1i have sinned --a fallen woman--an absolute whore of a woman.

2i am going to 'H'--yes, I am.

3a teacher should be perfect---but i am afraid i am not. it will be hot down there. sigh---lots of teachers down there.
1 = ALL are sinners and have fallen short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

2 = that is a choice you will make. Romans 8:1-2 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death.

3 = there was only one "perfect" and He is the reason you have a choice in # 2. 1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:09 AM  
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1 = ALL are sinners and have fallen short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

2 = that is a choice you will make. Romans 8:1-2 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death.

3 = there was only one "perfect" and He is the reason you have a choice in # 2. 1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.
man--i hear this 24/7--Mama mia!!!!!

thanks anyway--i am/was a teacher--whore,professionally. Second oldest profession. lol

many women have to do things like that to survive--sell their souls.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:38 PM  
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many women have to do things like that to survive--sell their souls.
no they don't.
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:35 PM  
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[QUOTE=beechercreature;128504]no they don't.[/QUOTE

um--women have to work--/gavel

if you teach public school you are smack in the middle of 'everything'----just go try it and find out--my advice

it wasn't that great of a career choice, imo

negotiation skills that would impress the UN-gotta be able to do that-deal with adminstrators, colleagues that are only concerned about making their own job easier--and the kids are trapped in this 'stew'-

i was an innovator--kicked arse pretty hard---24/7

got to work at 7AM--left at 5 or 6 PM--ate supper, walked my dog and got on the phone to call parents. then a few hours of grading papers

English teacher---the types of writing i saw--i thought i would die.

6th graders working on 2nd/3rd grade level--with little or no support from family--inner city--that is just how it is

so i nearly died--didn't get cut or killed by a student--one of the lucky ones

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