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Old 07-11-2003, 09:26 AM  
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Springer Prez

Springer to run for president. Jerry springer that is considering running for president if u don't already know. Anyone know his party label he will be running for? Prolly Republican. He stands a good chance...considering his fan base for his tasteless show..which used to be good in it's prime..but thats another topic. But also many of the U.S. citizens will think..any prez is better than the predicament bush has put us in....
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Stand corrected

8) Springer is running for the SENATE, either way he's trying to get a foot into public office. Some viewer emails were cited on the news and there is definatly a mix of opinions..heh some say...he's raunch because of his show, some say it's lets hear him out its his right, some say...lets vote for him can't be any worse that now.


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Old 07-20-2003, 01:26 AM  
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Jerry! Jerry!
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Old 07-21-2003, 03:08 PM  
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The New Jerry Show

Personaly I have a problem with any major TV network personality running for public office. The line is too blurred between entertainment popularity and actual "qualifications" for said office. The public is not smart enough, or too lazy, to look past the TV persona and ask questions like, "and that means you're good at representing the American people at what?"

When it comes to electing the most important positions in goverment, there seems to be a direct correlation between DE-emphasizing actual performance-based qualifiers, and running for high office. Since when does being a popular guy make you a good canidate for shaping America's policies? Hell, I know a few really really smart guys that would stick their necks out for me if I asked them too, but that doesn't mean I'd use them if I needed open-heart surgery. Well-intentioned people are just that, most often better than self-intentioned people, but still less than QUALIFIED people.

I hope Jerry doesn't run, and I hope if he does he will not get elected - because if he does it will be a direct result of his entertainment status in America and not for any measurable reason otherwise.
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Old 07-22-2003, 02:26 AM  
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Not so..

Since when does having a tv network personality discredit you for running for office? The majority of ppl in office are White, protestant, doctors, lawyers, or the increasingly popular...retired serviceman in the military. So this makes them more credible to the public than say someone who has a major tv show? No i don't think so... to become a politician you need not to get a degree in presidentology, or a masters in senatorial arts. Instead you have to be familiar w/ the process of democracy, the judicial, legislative, and executive.
Furthermore; a good politician must be able to turn the concerns of the people into laws, or help to pass legislation. A good politician must take the diverse beliefs of the US and build merit, or support to his fellow peers. A good politician must also accomodate other points of views w/o undermining his/her own goals. And lastly a good politician must reach a point of agreement for the consensus. I think we can all agree, that in the perfect world this would make the qualities of a good politician. It doesn't require you to learn the anatomy of a body to do brain surgery, be able to run a mile in 3 minutes, or troubleshoot computers. The task requires, effective communication skills, w/ a balance to mediate others opinions. And that is something you learn by growing up, not by earning a masters degree, or serving in the navy, or having a father that was also president.

That being said....now that we know tv personality has nothing to do w/ becoming a politician... why can't jerry springer run? He has a talk show... therefore he can communicate, and he's able to understand the differences between words like bonds,bonding, and bondage. He reaches the majority of the populus who doesn't vote and can spur those ppl to vote. And lastly....the lazy populus need not worry their minds w/ politics, because they're views are formulated thru the help of others, at church, family gatherings, city council meetings, and recreation..adults will often murmur tidbits of candidates and thus the receiver develops their own pro's and con's and cast their vote. That being said....Springer is a qualified candidate to run because he can communicate, persuade, develop own opinions, and reach out to the other 60% of the populus who do not vote.
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For the record....

Jerry started out in politics, BEFORE he had the TV show...I believe (don't quote me on this) that he was the mayor of Cleveland, or some big midwest city.
He was very popular as a politican, I think he was running for a third term when a scandal ruined him, that's when he started the show.

If you think that tv/movie stars cant become high ranking officals in politics. Look at Ron Reagan, or Sonny Bono, Jessie 'the body' Ventura, .....**** , I wouldn't be suprised if Arnold 'I'll be back' Swartzanager becomes govenor of California.


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Well spoken

While I never said "TV personalities CAN'T (as in...haven't) hold positions in high government..." (re-read my original post), I did say I didn't think it was a qualification worth the merit it is currently weighed-in with for holding any political office.

Can anyone in the entertainment industry hold a pubic or national office - certainly, it's a free country. Can a mattress salesman sell health insurance to the elderly, without a doubt. It's just a different spin. Jerry Springer is no more qualified as a political leader than Jerry Fallwell - they are both drawn to sensationalism and performance-based ferver and they have a "the gift of gab." This doesn't strike me as a huge positive characteristic of someone who may want to switch the limelight from sound stage to political pulpit.

My own personal feelings on this are that a person who is in the business of entertainment, acting, "persuading", and who's work ethic is based in applying a facade to whatever offers the best rating - this premise does not transfer well into politics if the true goal of real political representation is to actually represent the people through measureable outcome-based actions, and not simply persuading and/or influincing them. Fundamentally, acting & politics are seperated at their very root by what they are. It is only through the power of media and short-term individual placement of actors as "spokespersons" that the line between the two has become almost nonexistant. If Barney... were running for office he'd win by a landslide if you measured his success as a canidate strictly on his ability to communicate, influince, personal presence, and level of popularity with the American public.

The trend towards voting in a person based on "popularity" is flawed in that we may choose what looks like the best bet, while ignoring the person's actual level of ability for the position. This same trend is echoed in local politics and small businesses as well.

When I line up the canidates I don't find jerry Springer at the top for any other real reason than already having excellent name recognition and being a well-respected entertainer. That simply doesn't cut it for me, and instead makes my red flag go wayyy up.

That's just the way I feel about it.

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Old 07-24-2003, 01:41 PM  
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you're right

you're right, barney would win because he encompasses all the qualities of a good politician, as stated in my previous post. And since it's a free country lets have jerry run against barney...
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Barney vs Springer

Hey, now there's an election that would turn out the vote.

It would be the first time in history kids would try to hit the ballots and the second time in history when a canidate rested on his entertainment laurels to carry his vote by popularity.

Maybe we could somehow resurrect all of the original Mickey Mouse Club staffers and get them to run since they all embody the same attributes. Go back to sleep America, corporate America loves you and Wonder Bread Inc. is working night and day for your health.

Jueeeeesssss...just re-read my original post...talk about "gab." Dang that light beer.

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my second post was sarcastic... since u're analogy of barney winning an election would never happen. Because he obviously doesn't posses the qualities of a good politician in the perfect world. furthermore i stated that adults are often opinionated, or influenced on who to vote for by their peers who take a liking in politics. This helps to form a consensus among the populus and hopefully turns out the best candidate...

Lastly, barney would have to appeal to adults... and last time i checked.. he doesn't ..so he would never win, in a soceity where the voting populus is educated on politics, and do not watch barney.
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