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Old 01-31-2016, 02:23 PM  
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HE Washing Machines

Government meddling has done away with washers that do an efficient job of washing clothes. It's a bit like the original water saving toilets that took 2 or 3 flushes to do what one should accomplish.

I am no expert on control circuitry but if there is a machine out there good enough to warrant the effort it would appear that an aftermarket controller could be developed that would make a washer work like a pre-government washer. People waste time hacking computers, why not hack something that bypasses government meddling? Sounds like a win-win to me.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:05 PM  
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You expect anything from a government that couldn't run the Mustang Ranch and make a profit?
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:58 PM  
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I personally think that private enterprise has invaded our lives far more than the government. I mean think about it! The private sector makes money on any bit of info they can collect on you. The crap companies program into your devices such as washers, smart phones and so on, give off your every nuance.

By the way, government mandates on pollution and energy conservation have yielded better products all the way around. Cars are more fuel efficient, powerful and give off less emissions for a fact. A 2016 vehicle traveling at 60 miles per hour gives off less emissions than a 1977 vehicle parked with the engine turned off. Newer toilets actually flush as well if not better, while using less than half the water of older toilets. LED lights? Flat screen TVs and puter monitors? Think about the old TV set you had back in the 1970s compared to now. Stuffs getting better, and it's because the government both federal and state have set goals and spurred the industry. It's a good thing.
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Old 02-01-2016, 12:22 PM  
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I am not a socialist and have visited Russia on a couple of occasions and witnessed its health care and economy. One thing about Bernie, he admits he's a socialist. Obama lied about it but what walks like a duck . . . If Bernie makes it I can milk the system as well as the next one, meanwhile I stand for the republic and free enterprise.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:01 PM  
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I am not a socialist and have visited Russia on a couple of occasions and witnessed its health care and economy. One thing about Bernie, he admits he's a socialist. Obama lied about it but what walks like a duck . . . If Bernie makes it I can milk the system as well as the next one, meanwhile I stand for the republic and free enterprise.
See, that's the problem with people like you. Everything has to be black and white. What's wrong with a hybrid of free enterprise and socialism? Like Social security? What a great safety net! But if you want more, go get it. I just don't get how everyone on the right is totally out for themselves anymore. Not everyone is Mitt Romney or Donald Trump! Some people work their butts off but never can get ahead, even though they feel they should be able to plate a piece of the pie. Ronald Reagans trickle down economs just doesn't work!

By the way, Russia is a hybrid system of socialized medicine with private insurance, at least Latvia does anyway. For an equal comparison, you need to check out Denmark, Sweden, and so on. They DO have great systems.

By the way Eddie, How did you manage to go to Russia? I've wanted to visit that country my whole life!
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:52 PM  
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A friend of mine is Norwegian. His brother was found to have stage 4 cancer between the six month doctors visits. I guess they missed it on earlier visits.

But I digress, there's no such thing as a free lunch and the rich guys don't owe me anything. I don't call them names because they did better than me. I worked for a millionaire one summer when I was in college. He started out with a few chainsaws and a pickup truck clearing right-of-ways for roads and whatever. He just kept bidding on bigger jobs and was a success. A friend commented, wasn't it nice that T** didn't go to college so he could become a millionaire and give summer jobs to us college boys. Sounded OK to me.

BTW, the last new car I bought cost about 8K and the last pickup I bought cost less than a car only about 6K. You can't touch that in 2016. Also my 8K Prism can deliver 40 mpg on the interstate which ain't bad for a non-hybrid. I don't think uncle had anything to do with flatscreens and LEDs they came from free enterprise. I am glad they finally got toilets to work the first ones took 2-3 flushes and my washer uses a lot of water and electricity with the manipulation I have to do to get clothes clean.

Speaking of black and white, you have some nice dogs.
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Old 02-01-2016, 11:28 PM  
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Well thank you sir! I have a son out there somewhere. He'll be 30 this year. These are my kids nowadays!

I think perhaps I come off wrong. I'm not angry at the wealthy folks. They support my paycheck in one form or another. It's just that I believe that my hard work should be rewarded as well, but there really seems to be this attitude from many wealthy folks as though to say that their country club is not open to you sweaty working scum. Me and my spouse worked for years to pay off our home and vehicles. Our wheel herd consists of a 1994 and 1996 Toyota truck with 260,000 miles and 114,000 miles respectively. The 96 is my boy toy along with our two tractors, a John Deere and Kubota. Spouse drives a 2006 Highlander. We cannot even think about a newer vehicle. We have a 2006 motor home that we drove off the lot to our home and it literally hasn't moved since. No time for vacation here! For a fella turning 50 this year, I shouldn't complain, but really, in todays world, it could all go away easily enough.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:49 AM  
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I know what you mean with the new clothes washing machines. I had to buy a new washing machine recently, kept with the same brand and model level I had. It's a top loader. I'm not exaggerating when I tell you the thing is an absolute POS.
New dishwasher works, but we have to wash everything on "Anti bacterial" mode to get dishes and such clean and dry. Woman here is besides herself and blames me because I bought them.
Think I may look into commercial units.
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:41 PM  
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I know what you mean with the new clothes washing machines. I had to buy a new washing machine recently, kept with the same brand and model level I had. It's a top loader. I'm not exaggerating when I tell you the thing is an absolute POS.
New dishwasher works, but we have to wash everything on "Anti bacterial" mode to get dishes and such clean and dry. Woman here is besides herself and blames me because I bought them.
Think I may look into commercial units.
Well, I agree with you that a good many of the articles one buys for their homes are pure crap, but it's not the government, it's capitalism that's producing this chit. As if making record profits having your product made in Asia where they nearly get paid to have their stuff built, poor designs and crappy workmanship. Companies just can't seem to build enough profit into anything these days.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:21 PM  
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How Government Condemned Us to Dirty Clothes by Mandating Sub-Standard Washing Machines
March 17, 2011 by Dan Mitchell
Sam Kazman of the Competitive Enterprise Institute has a withering critique of dumb government policies that have taken away our freedom to buy low-cost and effective washing machines and instead forced us to buy expensive machines that don’t do a good job of cleaning our clothes.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that politicians are undermining our quality of life. These are the same jackasses, after all, that are in the process of requiring us to use crummy light bulbs. And they’ve already coerced us into ridiculous “low-flow” toilets that don’t work very well if you happen to…um…deposit something that reminds you of Washington.

Here’s an excerpt from Sam’s column, but read the whole piece since he also discusses how the Senate wants to make a bad situation even worse, and he also reveals how corrupt big businesses favor these mandates so they can eliminate low-cost options.

…for decades the top-loading laundry machine was the most affordable and dependable. Now it’s ruined—and Americans have politics to thank. …The culprit is the federal government’s obsession with energy efficiency. Efficiency standards for washing machines aren’t as well-known as those for light bulbs, which will effectively prohibit 100-watt incandescent bulbs next year. Nor are they the butt of jokes as low-flow toilets are. But in their quiet destruction of a highly affordable, perfectly satisfactory appliance, washer standards demonstrate the harmfulness of the ever-growing body of efficiency mandates. The federal government first issued energy standards for washers in the early 1990s. When the Department of Energy ratcheted them up a decade later, it was the beginning of the end for top-loaders. …Front-loaders meet federal standards more easily than top-loaders. Because they don’t fully immerse their laundry loads, they use less hot water and therefore less energy. But, as Americans are increasingly learning, front-loaders are expensive, often have mold problems, and don’t let you toss in a wayward sock after they’ve started. When the Department of Energy began raising the standard, it promised that “consumers will have the same range of clothes washers as they have today,” and cleaning ability wouldn’t be changed. That’s not how it turned out. …even though these newer types of washers cost about twice as much as conventional top-loaders, overall they didn’t clean as well as the 1996 models. …We know that politics can be dirty. Who’d have guessed how literal a truth this is?
I have heard that Speed Queen has a mechanical model that works but the big box stores don't carry it.

I kept a Whirlpool top loader going with self repairs for over 20 years but the tub spindle bearing finally failed and took that portion of the tub out as well. The timer never failed, just belts, water valves and the wig-wag.

If I wanted to spend the time I could find out what the control outputs are and rig up a controller or control it manually. Manual control would require more attention but one could add a timer to stop it in case one forgot to keep track. I generally hang close so I can add water if needed and switch to max water level for rinse (and second rinse) cycles anyway. I've had it a couple of years and many say I am lucky it has lasted this long.

I guess we are lucky we don't get all the government we pay for. (Oh, I forgot we don't all pay.)
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