sfjc kicks ass, jeep talk not so much. jt moderators are the most anal retentive ******* you will ever meet. the club needs to separate from jeep talk. over the years the club has taken great loses because of jeep talk's drama and they will continue to until they figure out that they need their own forum/website. there are plenty of other forums to visit where you wont get your pictures deleted because they were not exactly the right size or your post deleted because a mod simply doesn't like a person, place or business.