Thanks guys. The two attachment points and price worries me too, and no way would I go self tapping, thats just nutso. Fine in metal frame construction, not so fine with vibration. Of course bolts are better than screws methinks. On their site ground shipping is 40, but I think amazon had it free. Still I could go with ACE for not much more, no drilling so they say. But I agree this may not be the place to be cheap. If I had a nickle for every hour I spend looking for cheap fixes I could afford something better......and I blame my wife for liking shopping too much. Now to go see what the replies on JKO were. I'll prolly get flamed. At least I think their ausie made not chinese. My main thing is I need a step to reach my tall rack
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